Comments on: TFR Madness http://www.rapp.org/archives/2009/01/tfr-madness/ "Come fly with me, let's take off in the blue..." Fri, 03 Feb 2012 17:43:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: coffee http://www.rapp.org/archives/2009/01/tfr-madness/comment-page-1/#comment-41499 coffee Wed, 14 Jan 2009 04:10:35 +0000 http://www.rapp.org/?p=492#comment-41499 i bet no one would complain if Fergie replaced Megan Fox in the next installment of Transformers i bet no one would complain if Fergie replaced Megan Fox in the next installment of Transformers

]]> By: Ron http://www.rapp.org/archives/2009/01/tfr-madness/comment-page-1/#comment-41416 Ron Mon, 12 Jan 2009 06:05:37 +0000 http://www.rapp.org/?p=492#comment-41416 Martin: thanks for the detective work. The fact that it's Fergie's wedding only adds insult to injury. Grrr! Mike: thanks for not giving up on my site... I'm going to be posting more in '09! As for the newspaper, it can't hurt! Our biggest tool might be the one we're using now, the internet. Hopefully AOPA, EAA, and others can learn from the many clever ways the Obama campaign used the web. Eric: I looked at your site and admire your grit, training in (or should I say "near" since flight training is prohibited there?) the Washington ADIZ! You're my new hero in aviation. Seriously. I'm going to follow your blog! All: I'm glad to see it's not just my cantankerous nature, that many of you agree that these restrictions are bogus. Misery loves company. No, seriously, I think someone wiser than me once said the squeaky wheel gets the grease. Perhaps GA needs to get a lot more squeaky... Martin: thanks for the detective work. The fact that it’s Fergie’s wedding only adds insult to injury. Grrr!

Mike: thanks for not giving up on my site… I’m going to be posting more in ’09! As for the newspaper, it can’t hurt! Our biggest tool might be the one we’re using now, the internet. Hopefully AOPA, EAA, and others can learn from the many clever ways the Obama campaign used the web.

Eric: I looked at your site and admire your grit, training in (or should I say “near” since flight training is prohibited there?) the Washington ADIZ! You’re my new hero in aviation. Seriously. I’m going to follow your blog!

All: I’m glad to see it’s not just my cantankerous nature, that many of you agree that these restrictions are bogus. Misery loves company. No, seriously, I think someone wiser than me once said the squeaky wheel gets the grease. Perhaps GA needs to get a lot more squeaky…

]]> By: Ron http://www.rapp.org/archives/2009/01/tfr-madness/comment-page-1/#comment-41415 Ron Mon, 12 Jan 2009 05:56:53 +0000 http://www.rapp.org/?p=492#comment-41415 Wayne, I agree with you completely. I keep typing things and then erasing them. There's really nothing I can add. You hit the nail on the head. Wayne, I agree with you completely. I keep typing things and then erasing them. There’s really nothing I can add. You hit the nail on the head.

]]> By: eric http://www.rapp.org/archives/2009/01/tfr-madness/comment-page-1/#comment-41357 eric Sat, 10 Jan 2009 18:38:24 +0000 http://www.rapp.org/?p=492#comment-41357 I am just waiting for a TFR on 19th to foul up my training plans. All I want to did is get out of the ADIZ for training and directly back. TSA apparently has the capacity to check all the FBOs in the greater washington area for training non-citizens. I just furnished some proof this week. I am just waiting for a TFR on 19th to foul up my training plans. All I want to did is get out of the ADIZ for training and directly back.

TSA apparently has the capacity to check all the FBOs in the greater washington area for training non-citizens. I just furnished some proof this week.

]]> By: Mike http://www.rapp.org/archives/2009/01/tfr-madness/comment-page-1/#comment-41329 Mike Sat, 10 Jan 2009 05:16:50 +0000 http://www.rapp.org/?p=492#comment-41329 Ron, First, welcome back! I'd just about given up checking up on your blog. Anyway, I've been fuming about the ever increasing 'security' being imposed on me and my fellow comrades, er citizens, for a long while but this truly takes the cake! Most of my frustration is centered upon the realization of my utter inability to do anything to stop our continued loss of freedoms in this country. Writing to politicians is complete waste of time and effort; they are all for controlling us more and more. The fact that we pilots only represent 0.2% of the population merely insures that they can fearlessly ignore our complaints. Beyond rants such as these, I sure wish I could do something effective. Perhaps a letter to various newspapers trying to wake people up to your point: they may not care about what happens to us pilots, but maybe the light will go on that their favorite pursuit might just be next on the TSA et al's hit parade. I'm sure open to suggestions. Ron,

First, welcome back! I’d just about given up checking up on your blog.

Anyway, I’ve been fuming about the ever increasing ‘security’ being imposed on me and my fellow comrades, er citizens, for a long while but this truly takes the cake! Most of my frustration is centered upon the realization of my utter inability to do anything to stop our continued loss of freedoms in this country.

Writing to politicians is complete waste of time and effort; they are all for controlling us more and more. The fact that we pilots only represent 0.2% of the population merely insures that they can fearlessly ignore our complaints.

Beyond rants such as these, I sure wish I could do something effective. Perhaps a letter to various newspapers trying to wake people up to your point: they may not care about what happens to us pilots, but maybe the light will go on that their favorite pursuit might just be next on the TSA et al’s hit parade. I’m sure open to suggestions.

]]> By: paul http://www.rapp.org/archives/2009/01/tfr-madness/comment-page-1/#comment-41315 paul Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:05:32 +0000 http://www.rapp.org/?p=492#comment-41315 Wow, this is just amazing. I agree with you that this could be the start of all kinds of even more bogus TFRs. Wow, this is just amazing. I agree with you that this could be the start of all kinds of even more bogus TFRs.

]]> By: Martin Price http://www.rapp.org/archives/2009/01/tfr-madness/comment-page-1/#comment-41310 Martin Price Fri, 09 Jan 2009 18:36:05 +0000 http://www.rapp.org/?p=492#comment-41310 On a whim I thought I'd Google for "LA wedding January 10" and I get several hits for Fergie and Josh Duhamel. You have GOT to be kidding me. The angry libertarian in me is ready to rise up and protest but, to be honest, I just can't face the paperwork required. :-> Maybe we're going about this the wrong way. Perhaps the FAA have a simple online web page where you can request your own personal TFR. I'm taking the Decathlon up tomorrow so maybe I'll see if they can close off the practise area for me. And the next time I plan a party at my place it would significantly improve the security of my guests if all those Southwest 737s weren't cruising over... On a whim I thought I’d Google for “LA wedding January 10″ and I get several hits for Fergie and Josh Duhamel. You have GOT to be kidding me. The angry libertarian in me is ready to rise up and protest but, to be honest, I just can’t face the paperwork required. :->

Maybe we’re going about this the wrong way. Perhaps the FAA have a simple online web page where you can request your own personal TFR. I’m taking the Decathlon up tomorrow so maybe I’ll see if they can close off the practise area for me. And the next time I plan a party at my place it would significantly improve the security of my guests if all those Southwest 737s weren’t cruising over…

]]> By: Wayne Conrad http://www.rapp.org/archives/2009/01/tfr-madness/comment-page-1/#comment-41281 Wayne Conrad Fri, 09 Jan 2009 14:10:22 +0000 http://www.rapp.org/?p=492#comment-41281 We can protest in "free speech zones." We can march as long as we have permits. Bearing arms is truly a bear, requiring a permit in many states (and is just impossible in some). The right to redress of grievances is long gone. And, just as the antifederalists feared, the unenumerated rights have taken a hike (witness the mantra, "driving is not a right, it's a privilege." It's wrong, but by repetition governments have gotten everyone to believe it). On top of it all, taxation is now at levels that can honestly be called confiscatory. The federal pig has gotten so fat and powerful on our wages that it can't roll over without squishing something flat, and today it's general aviation. Sorry I couldn't bring any sunshine, Ron. I think things are pretty bad, and getting worse. My only hope, at this point, is that the federal pig is so fat that it dies of a heart attack, Soviet Union style. It doesn't seem to be responding to political pressure anymore. The American people were overwhelmingly against the bailout, and the federal government pooped that out anyhow. What hope do the people have when the government stops representing us? We can protest in “free speech zones.” We can march as long as we have permits. Bearing arms is truly a bear, requiring a permit in many states (and is just impossible in some). The right to redress of grievances is long gone. And, just as the antifederalists feared, the unenumerated rights have taken a hike (witness the mantra, “driving is not a right, it’s a privilege.” It’s wrong, but by repetition governments have gotten everyone to believe it).

On top of it all, taxation is now at levels that can honestly be called confiscatory. The federal pig has gotten so fat and powerful on our wages that it can’t roll over without squishing something flat, and today it’s general aviation.

Sorry I couldn’t bring any sunshine, Ron. I think things are pretty bad, and getting worse. My only hope, at this point, is that the federal pig is so fat that it dies of a heart attack, Soviet Union style. It doesn’t seem to be responding to political pressure anymore. The American people were overwhelmingly against the bailout, and the federal government pooped that out anyhow. What hope do the people have when the government stops representing us?

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